Speed 20

Alvis ad The Autocar 3 March 1933001This period advert was kindly submitted to Ted Hayward

August 2015

SA bookThe final instalment of Nick Simpson’s update on the SA Speed 20 has been published in the Bulletin. As Bulletins are now perfect bound, destruction is needed to put the three parts together so why not buy the booklet?

Like every book, it contains the odd error. George Butlin writes:

“I have been enjoying your Speed 20 articles enormously, but must point out a minor glitch in the most recent. The Speed 20 was not the car which Robert Sandeman used for his honeymoon; that was Speed 25 Offord dhc Chassis 13659 reg’n. DUL 60.

You may remember that Jonathan Edwardes became, and remains, my neighbour, and that I wrote an article for The Bulletin in 2012. I was very disappointed at the time that the photos I submitted with the article were not included- I have about twenty which Jonathan allowed me to scan.”

“In 1994 Jonathan asked the Alvis Owner Club for help in tracing the car that his Uncle Captain Robert Sandeman was forced to abandon in France following the outbreak of war while he was touring in the South of France on his honeymoon. At that time it was incorrectly assumed that the car was one previously owned by Robert, a Speed 20 SA Vanden Plas Semi Coupe de Ville with many unusual and interesting features. Jonathan was very pleased with the helpful responses he received from Malcolm Davey and Nick Simpson identifying that Car as Chassis 10616, engine 11068, car number 15477, body number 3022 and registration ALW 648. An article was published in Bulletin 418 in August 1994. Sadly the fate of that very elegant car is unknown.”

The upside of this is that we can now publish the photos that were missing from the original article which you can download here Sandeman Alvis 030512

…..and these of the Speed 25


 

NEC Classic Car Show – November 2014 – The Speed Models


 

This new gallery poses a few questions…..


 

The following galleries contain production data of the four Speed 20 types taken from the Model Registers published in the 1980s. For up to date information on any model you can contact the current Model Secretary (details in the AOC Bulletin). To read the pages click on them and magnify.

The following gallery is of Speed 20 SA  chassis 9425, the first photo from 1936 when owned by James Roy of Edinburgh. Over 600 hours of restoration work by Robin Everall plus specialist trades.


 

10057 Speed 20 SA Vanden Plas at Ickworth - photo AAT Fox Collection
10057 Speed 20 SA Vanden Plas at Ickworth – photo AAT Fox Collection

A Gallery of SAs (351 built)


 

The Speed 20 SB Gallery (375 built) Model Secretary Peter Sedgwick (PAS)

11210 SB Speed Twenty last listed with AOC No 6746 Eire. This pic looks like it was taken in the mid 'Sixties. The Cross & Ellis sports body is missing the front bumper, windscreen and running boards. The original running boards were a continuation of the front wings joining directly to the rear wings. HS 7447 was a Renfrewshire registration from very early in 1934. (Nick Simpson)
11210 SB Speed Twenty last listed with AOC No 6746 Eire. This pic looks like it was taken in the mid ‘Sixties. The Cross & Ellis sports body is missing the front bumper, windscreen and running boards. The original running boards were a continuation of the front wings joining directly to the rear wings. HS 7447 was a Renfrewshire registration from very early in 1934. (Nick Simpson)

 

The Speed 20 SC Gallery (289 built)

SC Speed 20 Car No. 17158 Chassis No. 12014 Charlesworth body No. 13400135 It occurred to me that not many people around here (Australia) would know how these boots were originally lined, as most here, now seem to now be carpeted. So I thought a copy of what originaly lined the boot should be kept, as these remnants won't be around much longer as I have just re-done my boot and no longer need them. If I was looking for this information then this is what I would like to see. I hate throwing away historic evidence. Photo and caption: Paul Bamford
SC Speed 20
Car No. 17158
Chassis No. 12014
Charlesworth body No. 13400135
It occurred to me that not many people around here (Australia) would know how these boots were originally lined, as most here, now seem to now be carpeted. So I thought a copy of what originally lined the boot should be kept, as these remnants won’t be around much longer as I have just re-done my boot and no longer need them.
If I was looking for this information then this is what I would like to see. I hate throwing away historic evidence. Photos and caption: Paul Bamford

SC boot Paul B

original boot material
original boot material
12041 Paul Bamford's Speed 20 SC Charlesworth in Australia - owned since 1965
12041 Paul Bamford’s Speed 20 SC Charlesworth in Australia – owned since 1965
12041 interior
12041 interior
12041
12041 – photos courtesy of Paul Bamford who has provided the history of the car for the archives

 

The Speed 20 SD Gallery (149 built)

The 3½ Litre or Model SA25.63 has its own page, click here  The 3½ litre introduced at the 1935 Motor Show for the 1936 season.  The chassis was effectively an Speed 20 SD stretched to 10′ 7″ wheelbase but retaining the Speed 20 SD back springs (which were lengthened by a foot when the Speed 25 came along) and adding a solid floor plate filling the area between the gearbox and the batteries.

The engine (later used for the Speed 25) similarly looks like a stretched Speed 20 unit, with a 7-bearing crank, looking back to that model by not having a thermostat and bypass.

 

 


The Speed 25 has its own pag, click on Speed 25

 

11 thoughts on “Speed 20”

  1. My father was the owner of AYH577 in the 1950’s.A Lancefield Parallite Saloon. (one off I beleive) Chassis number was 11263.If any one has any information on this car I would be really gratefull)

    1. The Speed 20SB Master Database contains some photographs of this unique Alvis and two interesting letters. One, dated 17/12/84, is from the son of the first owner, Mr Joseph Lister, while the other, dated 17/5/94, is from David Sweetman’s father Mr T. McC Sweetman, who states that he sold the car in 1952. Unfortunately the vehicle has not been seen or heard of since the late 50s/early 60s and there is circumstantial evidence (its engine appeared in another car) that it was broken up about that time.
      The late Nick Walker wrote about the car and the detective work behind its identification in an article in Bulletin No 450 March/April 1998.

  2. Dear Peter Sedgwick, My 1934 Speed Twenty SB will be on the road very soon. Can you send me the details of how I can add it to the Speed Twenty Registry?

  3. I was amazed to see the pic of me and GY 3986 SA Speed 20. It must have been taken at Perton Sprint in the mid 70 ‘s. GY was my first Speed model after several 12/50’s and my late wife Sue and I toured Cornwall in it in company with the late David James and his wife accompanied by children and my black Lab Wellington. Great days.

  4. Hello, has anyone got any record of a speed 25 EYP 931, chassis 19492, engine no. 15064. It was owned by my grandfather in the 50’s in Cornwall and I’m curious if it is still around. Thanks

    1. I show Speed 25 SC Charlesworth 14485 Drophead Coupé, chassis 14580, engine 15064, car 19492, EYP 331, despatrched from the Alvis Works on 18 May 1938, with AOC member 1700 SW, Capt. E. G. Pilgrim, Park House, Tregony, Cornwall in the late 1950s. The following ad appeared in AOC Bulletin 86, September 1960: 1938 Speed 25 drophead by Charlesworth in original turquoise and black. New silencer and 4 new tyres. Purchaser should have £50 to spare for new hood and minor renovations: the old lady deserves it. £100 o.n.o. Pilgrim, Park House, Tregony, Cornwall.
      Unfortunately, I have no information since. Wayne Brooks, waynealvis@aol.com

  5. I am trying to trace my fathers Alvis speed 20 SC Reg no ARB849 chassis 11928. was maroon with cycle wings. last believed to have been exported to USA in late 1980’s – any information please?

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